[ He laughs ]

That, I cannot tell you, as I was not there. But this I know - my grandfather and those of his generation remember a world lit only by the stars. When they travelled to Valinor, when I was born, that was the first time they had seen Light, but they came from the two Trees - Telperion and Laurelin, from whose fruit and flower were born later our Moon and Sun, and I remember when Tilion first steered the Moon into the skies, and later was followed by Arien, and so began the count of the Years of the Sun.