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Dean Winchester ([personal profile] kickingand) wrote in [community profile] hadriel_logs2016-08-07 06:41 pm

hail the orphan king(s)

Who: the winchester bros
What: it is time for The Talk (the pls shut up sam, talk)
Where: the SPN Boys apartment
When: mid-month?? (post cas' party)
Warnings: sensitive topics

[ Dean is hiding, though he's hiding from the past days events in a stark and powerful way. But if there's one person he's still almost hiding from, it's himself.

And then after that? After that, Dean is hiding from Sam and from the ghosts of their father, imaginings he's brewed without even having to try. He's told himself a thousand and one times that they'll despise him for all of it, that they'll see things in him that are more wrong than all the rest and he'll be even more lost than where he started. Not that he thinks Sam will hate him - but god, what if he does? What if Sam can't stand the way he's starting to walk (is he walking different? do his feet turn more inward while his body curls against the weight of his fear of this thing that he's become? is his spine breaking while he tries to shoulder the burden of the things he isn't meant to be?), is beginning to look at him the way his father might if he knew. What if Sam looks at his big brother and sees a man that has never been there before, one that is broken and skewed sideways; what if what Sam sees, he cannot stand.

Dean will never be able to look in the mirror again if Sam sees someone who was never meant to be and right now, all that he sees is something he can hardly stand.

Cas is still out from whatever nightly things he does while the angel cannot sleep, controlled by the parts of himself that are no more human than Dean images them to be. Sometimes Dean forgets that Cas isn't all the same parts of himself but he's thankful for the reprieve from emotions too strong for him to manage whilst still breathing, for a break from the raw feelings of what he'd spoken of with the angel, of his admittance and the dreams that followed while he attempted sleep. Still, fearful memories of Lisa and death and loss and his own frantic fears still dug out bags under his eyes, and have now made him feel exposed and frozen all at once, burned out and torn open and he swears he can't escape the taste of Cas, no matter how hard he tries to navigate through the pull of it. It doesn't make him feel awful no, doesn't even make him feel dirty and maybe that's the problem; the problem is he wants more and yet, again - he wakes up with the words sputtering across his lips:

But I wasn't gay.

Running fingers through his hair as he tries to walk the stiffness out of his joints, Dean winds his way to the couch, already planning his escape route for the day to keep from thinking of the things that he said, planning to run his way out of the apartment. Maybe still grab a bottle of whiskey and go. Sit at the dam, sit somewhere, walk somewhere else, imagine throwing himself to the cave fish that Noah had introduced him to. Anywhere but here, he keeps telling himself, anywhere but inside of his own mind where the words circulate at such a frantic speed that he can no longer keep up with. It's rampant, his dire need to explain himself to no one at all, as if someone out there is listening to the shouting that echoes through his skull. Every thought, every one that backpedals every other inaction is something he's terrified of, so scared that his body will react without his own consent that he's left shouting at the things he is and the things he isn't, sure that one more retelling of the same story is what will finally get him to the conclusion he's trying to leave himself with.

He wasn't gay. He's never been gay. So how is he now?

It doesn't matter that he's in love, doesn't matter that it's Cas- he can't be gay. There's nothing more than that, nothing else. And he keeps waiting for the moment where it cracks, where he splinters, where the words become finite reality and he'll stop having to question his paranoia as if he can make himself believe what has always been the case.

Still ignoring his coffee, Dean sits at the edge of the couch, staring off at nothing in particular as Sam finally manages his way out from his own bedroom, from whatever it is he's been doing since they both woke. Dean won't make eye contact, can't even begin to try and manage it for now because he's too rooted in fears that are echoing behind his eyes, the tremors of worry passing across his shoulders while he rubs the back of his neck and pretends he does not truly exist. He is something else, someone else, he is everything he used to be even now and he knows that the way Sam has been looking at him lately tells a different tale. Maybe if Cas would stop telling him that everything is going to be alright when they're all in the apartment together, acting as if he needs to soothe Dean at every moment, like he's breaking in front of them all without any of their permission. Cas has been too comforting lately and Dean has been pushing too hard, skittering and nervous and on edge and now the after effects of the party? It's all something of a mess.

But he manages it eventually, looks up with eyebrows raised to Sam's full height and pulls out a smile that presses his expression into something twisted and off-key, a song Dean keeps singing that just fuels all the things Dean can't bring light to.
]

Morning.
hollowly: (✓ 48.)

let's see what horrible icons an expired paid has left me with alkhfd

[personal profile] hollowly 2016-08-24 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
( of all the things that sam could have ever possibly thought about his brother, even when things were strained between them – he could never hate him. there have been times in the past when neither of them have been able to stand the other's presence, when words have come to blows and more than left them feeling broken, shattered, wanting. whatever it is that has dean hiding from his younger brother and himself, it has to be something worth mentioning, and though sam has noticed his reclusive behavior, if there's one thing that he's learned from the years spent following dean's shadow, it's that he will only come around when he wants to.

( it's that he doesn't want to, this time, that should set off the first of the alarm bells. )

for the most part, he's been giving his brother a little more space than he had been previously; with the mark, with the talk they'd had in the caves, it's all become clear that it's changing him, whether he likes it or not. but he gets the feeling that whatever this is, whatever thing that has the older winchester acting as he has been is something of a completely different caliber. something that they haven't glossed over yet, and that

it's enough to make him want to bridge that gap, approach the subject however awkwardly he has to to get the ball rolling, and that's exactly what he's been doing since he'd woken up that morning, even if he'd kept himself holed up in his room. ( he'd heard dean rustling around, the sounds of the newly-roused and the smell of coffee wafting underneath the door, but he hadn't yet laid down a game plan, and it's difficult enough to talk about sensitive things with his brother even when he does know what he's going to say going in.

it's impossible when he doesn't. )

his door cracks open with a muffled creak of the hinges, pads out into the main part of the apartment and stops in the kitchen for some of that coffee – because everything is just a little easier when he has caffeine in his system, it's something he'll never think to deny – and he's taking his first sip when dean finally acknowledges him, eyes raised to meet his own, and he swallows slowly, giving a simple tilt of his chin in greeing. tries to keep his expression neutral, from giving too much away.
)

Hey.

( well. at least it's something.)
hollowly: (✓ 36.)

weh

[personal profile] hollowly 2016-08-25 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
( growing up together had always meant being in one another's personal space, whether they meant to or not. it's no different here, when it all comes down to it, especially given that they have a smaller space to themselves than, say, the bunker would allow them. being apart from one another had always been something else entirely, something that he doesn't like to linger on now that they're both back in the same place, where they need to be as far as the magnetic pull that keeps bringing them back together no matter how far they stray. ( and truth be told, those stretches of absence that had found them both lacking are things that he doesn't want to bring about again, because it's happened too many times already, and even if it seems that history is doomed to repeat itself with them no matter how many times they try to correct their course, there's nothing he won't try to keep certain things from coming around again. )

suffice it to say that space hasn't been much of an option in recent months, no matter how either of them wants to look at it. and that just … goes without saying.

what also goes without saying is that sam has always been able to read his brother like an open book, even when he's trying his damndest to keep certain things from bleeding into his expression. sam can tell, beyond any other stretch of his imagination that dean is trying to keep something for himself, trying to keep some sort of whatever from giving himself away, and that in and of itself is enough to draw his attention more than it already had before. concern flickers in his expression, though at the very least the bottom half of his own expression is hidden behind his coffee mug as he takes another drink, ultimately slips over to sit not far from the other on the sofa.
) Not planning on it just yet. Still early.

( easy questions, yes, but empty ones meant to fill the silence that stretches between them, the strained sort of thing that hangs heavy with the questions that haven't been asked yet, that still need answers in order to get to some sort of understanding that may still yet be unnamed.

sam doesn't know what exactly is going on inside his brother's head, but he knows there's something going on, and it isn't going to be very long before he gives up on pretense and just asks. ( which would mean getting to that point in the first place, but … one step at a time. )

there's a beat in which he takes a breath and lets it out slowly, takes another sip of his coffee.
) There's something going on with you. ( there's the first of it, the tip of the iceberg, and he's looking back at his brother with a knowing sort of gaze, even before the next bit comes out of his mouth. )

It's got something to do with Cas, doesn't it?
hollowly: (✓ 45.)

weh i say again! for ... no real reason lmfao.

[personal profile] hollowly 2016-08-26 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
( regardless of what it's actually stemmed from, whether from their entangled childhood to their codependent adulthood, it doesn't matter much in the long run. the things they've seen, experienced, run away from and yet somehow come out little more than a bit bruised and scathed and worse for the wear, at the very least it's all been together, and nothing is ever going to be able to take away from that. no matter how much times has passed, how much of that they end up spending apart during one of their fits. it's all been enough to bring them here, to keep them together even when it had seemed like anything at all could tear them apart, and sam can't imagine having it any other way. not when it means everything that they can still be like this, as strained as it has a tendency to be on any given day.

( he would argue, at length, that they aren't quite sure how to be any other way. normal? healthy? that's for the birds. even though he'd tried convincing himself that all he wanted to be was normal in his younger years, he now realizes that there isn't a thing in the world that he would trade for this, even if it meant taking a backseat to the adventure and unknown that comes with their day-to-day. dean might say it better, but normal has a tendency to be … boring. )

here, now, sitting so closely together that they're all but sharing the same personal space, there isn't any hiding to be done, though sam is trying like hell not to be as invasive as he gets the feeling he might have to be in order to get any answers to his questions. dean has never been the greatest with letting anything show through, especially when it means breaking down the walls that he's built around himself in order to both keep things in and out. those walls have always been there for a reason, and even though he's always been the one to weasel his way inside, sometimes –

there are things better kept hidden away. things that don't need to see the light. and these things, damn it all, are the ones that sam is delving the deepest for.

what he wants to say – what he would say if he knew the depths of that which dean is so terrified to be free of – is that there is nothing, not a damned thing that could make him think any differently about him. that it doesn't have anything to do with being gay, that it doesn't matter if that's the label the other wants to put on it, because love is just that. love. and sam has always been a firm believer in the fact that love doesn't hold gender, or orientation, that it just is and no sort of bond that strong between two people should be judged for anything other than what it is –

which is just natural.

( and maybe … there's some reasoning behind his way of thinking. but he's always thought that way, as far back as he can remember, from as early as he could understand what it meant to have those kinds of feelings for another person. what brings the mosts joy, the most fulfillment is the one thing that should be seen through to the end, should be held close and protected. that's … all there is to it, with him. let there be judgment. )

it's a nice try, he has to admit, that dean stays so adamant, so vigilant in his denial. what he wants to keep to himself and away from the rest of the world is precisely what sam wants to be trusted with, whatever sort of thing that's eating him up from the inside out, wreaking hell and havoc on mind, body and soul – the latter of which has been run through the ringer already, and doesn't need any more torment.

sam huffs out a small sound and rolls his eyes.
) Look. Whatever it is, you know you can tell me. Right? When have you not been able to trust me? ( more than a handful of times, his brain supplies helpfully, and it isn't a lie; there have been so many times in the past that dean hadn't been able to trust his little brother as far as he could have thrown him, but each and every time he's at least tried to redeem himself, and that stands for something, doesn't it?

he rubs at his face with his free hand, and ends up setting his coffee to the side, giving his brother his full attention.
)

Seriously, Dean. Talk to me. Please.
hollowly: (✓ 1o6.)

and yet somehow, you still love me ...

[personal profile] hollowly 2016-09-08 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
( neither of them, really, know what it means to have a healthy relationship. granted, sam himself has come closer to anything that might equate one than dean ever has, or even thought about, but every attempt at such has been cut short and left a bad taste on the back of his tongue, like something taken away too quickly and then left to sour. ( even when he can't help but to still want something like it, even if it means encompassing all the grief and anguish that comes from letting someone so close, in letting them see all the bits and broken pieces that come together to make the semblance of a whole. a bruised, battered whole in their regard, because they've never been perfect and that sure isn't about to change.

to be able to share the grief, the angst, the sorrow that comes from everything they've been up to now, that's … something that you can't ever take for granted. something to hold on to for dear life, for what it means, and for everything they've missed before now. )

that they both consider one another the closest they've ever been to a functional relationship surely says something about them, about their upbringing – even leaving out the fact that john winchester had probably been the most emotionally constipated soul to have ever been graced with the name winchester, though some of that is sure to have come from being a soldier, trained in the art of what it means to look past the downfall of emotion. they hadn't learned from the best, but they'd done the best with what they'd been given, and there is never going to be a time in which they don't see one another in the same light.

even if some things do change, over the slow and incremental passage of time, through days and nights spent both in wonder and confusion and everything in between, all of which seem to have assaulted his brother all at once and left him an agonizing mess of what am i supposed to do?

dean has never been anything but hard on himself, harder on himself than anyone else – sam included, and that goes without saying – and that he can leave himself agonizing over something like being in love is nearly enough to make sam's own heart squeeze in a way that leaves him short of breath, just this side of nauseous, because it should never be so complicated when it comes to doing what you want and not feel as though you'll be judged for what you can't help feeling. ( because he's going to drive that point home if he has to, literally, physically beat it into him. that isn't up for debate. it never has been, and never will be. )

but here they go, the casual but strained back-and-forth finally morphing into what sam had been hoping to avoid in the first place, and the words that come out of his brother's mouth are enough to have him sighing in slight exasperation, the fingers of one hand curling in on themselves and thumping lightly against his thigh. in thought, in trying to find some way to defuse the situation before it really has a chance to get started, because this is not what he'd wanted when he'd first thought to approach the subject. it's all an attempt to get dean to accept himself for what he is, and what he has with castiel, not bring the things he's been shoving down and down and down some more to a head and have them erupt.

but then again, how often does that happen, anyway, no matter how carefully he treads?

sam swallows once, twice, takes a sip of his coffee and sits in silence until the other is finished with his outburst and then attempts to pick out the pieces of that outburst that would be the safest to address first. ( really, he thinks, there is nothing implicitly safe about this conversation at all, but he can't do anything but try, and sometimes … that's really all he's good for. )
)

I'm not gonna lecture you. Not about something like this. ( trying to give his older brother a lecture has never been the right path to take, and even if it's taken him the years of his combined childhood and young adult life to finally come to that conclusion, it's something he continues to hold on to. dean and lectures – well, maybe john had been able to get through to him once or twice when they were younger, but it's always been like talking to a brick wall. a brick wall that had a tendency to smart-talk back and practically shit on any point you tried to make, and only end up pleased with himself that he'd managed to talk in circles and make no progress at all. ) I just have one question.

( for the moment, because any sort of long-winded rush of words from him isn't going to do either of them any good, when it all comes down to it. dean is terrified, scared that having feelings for an angel is going to somehow change him completely, turn him into something unrecognizable, just for the simple fact that it isn't conventional.

but here's the thing –

when have they ever been anything like that?

he lets the silence stretch on for another half-second, maybe two, and then –
) Do you love him?