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[OPEN] Be my mirror, my sword and shield
Who: OPEN. Jon Snow and… maybe your character?
What: Open direwolf meet and greets, horse exercise, hanging out at the Speakeasy, planting trees, and attempting to start to come to terms with some extremely difficult truths about his identity: the man he thought was his father, and idolized, was not; his parents accidentally started a war with their elopement; that throne people have been fighting over for seven seasons should have been his all along. [This is written in prose, but any format is fine.]
Where: All around Hadriel.
When: Late October/first half of November, up to the upcoming memory share event. Fourth Wall is technically over, but since this log is partly intended to deal with the fallout of those events, fourth wallers are still welcome for threads set before the end of October, or threads set after that if they have apped and been accepted.
Warnings: Jon is a good guy, but interactions with him always carry a general Game of Thrones warning, mostly for violence (medieval warfare and justice) and adult themes (heavy sexual content, various incestuous relationships that are varying levels of scandalous and central to the plot, etc). Anything set during or after Fourth Wall has an additional disclaimer for the fact that he's learned about his actual parentage during this event… which means, sorry dudes, but he's just figured out that the girl he's fallen hard for is his aunt. The show has not addressed the potential problems with this one way or another yet... but while the books suggest that marrying your aunt or uncle is juuust within acceptable limits in their culture, it seems important to acknowledge that it's obviously way outside of acceptable limits in ours.
This log is intended to deal with the fallout of that revelation, so it's definitely going to come up in some of these prompts -- not least because his claim to the throne is better than hers if he chooses to pursue it. Still, you can leave me an ooc note about your comfort levels, avoid the prompts where he's visibly upset, set stuff a little before Fourth Wall or after the first week of November (where he's likely to be less upset about all of it), etc.
Prompts in the comments! Here's a visual reference for Ghost, by the way:

What: Open direwolf meet and greets, horse exercise, hanging out at the Speakeasy, planting trees, and attempting to start to come to terms with some extremely difficult truths about his identity: the man he thought was his father, and idolized, was not; his parents accidentally started a war with their elopement; that throne people have been fighting over for seven seasons should have been his all along. [This is written in prose, but any format is fine.]
Where: All around Hadriel.
When: Late October/first half of November, up to the upcoming memory share event. Fourth Wall is technically over, but since this log is partly intended to deal with the fallout of those events, fourth wallers are still welcome for threads set before the end of October, or threads set after that if they have apped and been accepted.
Warnings: Jon is a good guy, but interactions with him always carry a general Game of Thrones warning, mostly for violence (medieval warfare and justice) and adult themes (heavy sexual content, various incestuous relationships that are varying levels of scandalous and central to the plot, etc). Anything set during or after Fourth Wall has an additional disclaimer for the fact that he's learned about his actual parentage during this event… which means, sorry dudes, but he's just figured out that the girl he's fallen hard for is his aunt. The show has not addressed the potential problems with this one way or another yet... but while the books suggest that marrying your aunt or uncle is juuust within acceptable limits in their culture, it seems important to acknowledge that it's obviously way outside of acceptable limits in ours.
This log is intended to deal with the fallout of that revelation, so it's definitely going to come up in some of these prompts -- not least because his claim to the throne is better than hers if he chooses to pursue it. Still, you can leave me an ooc note about your comfort levels, avoid the prompts where he's visibly upset, set stuff a little before Fourth Wall or after the first week of November (where he's likely to be less upset about all of it), etc.
Prompts in the comments! Here's a visual reference for Ghost, by the way:

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It left her sick. She slid off the side of the horse, breathing in the harsh sea air. It could almost take her back to White Harbor. There was no snow in the hair, no wisps of ice tangled in her hair from the water sprinkles and cold wind. She frowned, trying to sort it out in her head. She had given him so much information, but it seemed that it was repaid to her now, telling her of a future she couldn't imagine.
"But you were named King?"
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"Aye, but not then. They married Sansa to Bolton's son. He was -- his cruelty was -- well, he was cruel to her, kept her locked in a room, beat her. She escaped from him and came to me at Castle Black, and Ramsay Bolton killed his father so that the North would be his."
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As it should be for anyone with a good heart. Though...wasn't that what brought her family to where it was? What was the answer in the end? Play the game and go to such depths or keep your integrity? It was something she hoped her son would never have to answer, but seemed forced to.
"And then? You raised an army?"
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"Our brother Rickon, the youngest. He was a lad of twelve, and Bolton had him, and -- there really wasn't anywhere else we could go. Couldn't stay at Castle Black, and couldn't leave him to Bolton. The Wildlings were willing to fight for me, right enough, but the Northern lords were harder to convince.
"We had the Mormonts, and the Mazins and Hornwoods, and in the end, Sansa was able to call on the help of the Vale Knights, because -- her aunt Lysa had been married to Lord Arryn. The young lord is her cousin.
"And Ramsay Bolton is dead. We found once we got past the gates" (how do you get past the gates of Winterfell?) "that they'd done a good part of the work of rebuilding what had been burned. But no winter roses just now. The glass garden had been all smashed."
He shrugs, pats the horse again. "When the lords all came to council to swear fealty to the Starks again, they named me king."
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One family had ruled for generations, the other had broken guest right and usurped a position that was never truly theirs. They had seen that children had their heads dashed out, women tortured and humiliated. Yet they managed to keep the loyalty of those that had served under her family since the North was united.
"The North had to be regained by the Vale?" Somehow that seemed the worst insult. "You cannot trust them, sweetling." The sad reality. If House Bolton could revolt, if all of Westeros could revolt, anyone could. "You are king now. Remember that Tywin Lannister began as Aerys' servant, his friend. Don't harbor a beast close to your breast."
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"The Northern lords lost men, all of them, even heads of houses, at the wedding where my brother Robb was killed. He had promised to marry a Frey girl and then married a foreign girl. I never met her, I don't know much about her. But she was killed with him. As many of the North's fighting men as they could kill at the Twins, they did. And when Sansa and I came to them, we didn't have much, no real proof that we had any chance of victory. She had been married to a Lannister and a Bolton and betrothed to Cersei's son before that, and I'm a bastard."
He pauses there to give her a look: as far as anyone in the North knew, he was.
"I wanted them to risk going against Bolton, I pleaded our case, but Lord Manderly's sons were killed at The Twins. Lord Glover had received no help from Robb when Deepwood Motte was taken by the Ironborn. I know what they are, but I know more than that. We can't fight amongst ourselves when the Army of the Dead is coming."
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"These were the same men that joined Ned after your grandfather and uncle were killed. They lost sons and fathers and so much else during that Rebellion, but they were brow beat by the Lannisters?" Cravens! Fairweather cravens. "It was the dragons they knelt to, but somehow a lion is enough to make them piss themselves?"
She grabbed a rock, tossing it towards the waves with all her might.
"Lord Manderly lost sons? What of what you lost? What of what I lost? I might be a woman and far beneath him in years, but I still have fight in me to beat every last Lannister bloody!" Again with the dead. If Rhaegar were here, he'd pierce through her anger and remind her of the greater picture. Jon was right to do what he needed, deep down she understood that. But it wasn't enough to subside her anger. "The Others take them, all of them. They supported Robert's claim, they broke their oath with House Stark!"
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But apart from that, he lets her release her fury -- which is impressive. Mostly, he watches, looking a little dubious.
"The Others will take them, if we don't band together," he finally says, as calm as he can manage. What else can he say? All his explanations of how things have changed have only enraged her. "I've seen them. I've killed them, and I've watched them kill, and whatever you remember of the stories..." He presses the corners of his mouth together. "It's worse than that. It's a thousand times worse. Houses, thrones, they don't matter. Not now.
"I wish you could have been there, when I was a boy. I wish I could have had a mother, I wish I could have felt --" Like something other than a bastard. "But they're no threat to you now." There's apology in that, because he's grateful the Night King will never hurt her, never touch her.
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The last of her anger began to fade and she sank to the ground. Her knees were soon damp from the wet sand, water and earth mixing against her skin. The two worlds she had known colliding in such a strange mix. The deserts of Dorne and the cold of the North, all of it wrapped into this strange place where there was no hope, only a future that she could not affect or experience.
She said before he sounded like Rhaegar and now was no different. He held the greater picture in mind, not the simple hurts and frustrations that consumed her currently. How had it been for Ned? Seeing a boy more and more like the fallen prince while the only traces of Lyanna were looks?
"They're a threat to you, my love." She managed finally, staring ahead at the horizon. "Do you think it really matters if they can touch me or not?"
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"To you? No. But to me." A long exhalation. "I've been fighting them for so long."
Daenerys may fall to them. Sansa may fall, and patient kindly Wolkan, and little Lyanna Mormont, and Edd and Tormund Giantsbane and every other face he's ever considered familiar. But the faces lost to him, Ned Stark and Robb and Rickon and Bran, maybe Arya, certainly Ygritte, now Lyanna too: death is nothing but a great pool of blackness, or not even that. But it holds them safe from the Others.
He lifts his hand from her shoulder and holds it out to her.
"Come on, get up."
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All of it was on his shoulders.
"You are fighting your father's war." She said in a long exhale, feeling far older than sixteen. It was almost as though she had lived for centuries, the weight and pressure of the passing generations burying her deeper and deeper into melancholy. "And we did nothing to protect you from it."
Only to ensure that he fought it alone.
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"It's my war. It's everyone's war. He'd be nigh on fifty now, if he had lived. We'd be in a better position to fight it, but I wouldn't have been to the Wall, I wouldn't know. Maybe Uncle Benjen would have known, maybe he would have convinced Father -- Lord Stark, maybe Prince Rhaegar would have believed it all. But with things as they are --"
The embrace breaks apart, a little.
"I don't know what you could have done. It's a twist of fate here, a little mistake there, something that means everything." He laughs, suddenly, a little mirthless bark, as a thought strikes him about the prince he might have been. "When Cersei's son Joffrey was at Winterfell, I wasn't allowed to train in the yard with the other boys. I was so -- I thought they were saying I wasn't good enough, and it was --"
Bastards can't be allowed to wound princes.
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"I don't know how your father knew of it. There was something he read, something that gave him insight. It might have been dragon dreams for all I was told. The things we spoke of were not that war but the other one." Which made her unequipped to help him. "It may have happened for a reason, but--" she broke off. She had already said she didn't like that he had been sent to the Wall. There was no point in repeating it.
He was right. Every little thing lead them towards that point. It was fate, unbreakable and inevitable. Though that didn't make it any easier. Without her mistakes, her son might never have been born, but did that ease the knowledge that she was responsible for her family's near demise? How could that be compared to the world, yet they had been her world.
Thankfully, he took her mind from the topic by telling her a small bit of irony. "You would have knocked that boy in the dirt." She grinned, cupping his cheek with her cold hand. Her eyes became sad, realizing how true to life that moment might have been. Robert's son beaten by Rhaegar's, the way it should have been at the Trident. "Robert had his fair share of bastards, as did your Uncle Brandon. It would have been no insult at all for you to be with those boys. Whatever Catelyn Tully thought, I imagine Ned wanted you away from Robert for other reasons."
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He sighs, and his face grows, suddenly, much sadder. "He's the one who killed your brother. I wanted to kill him. After we left Winterfell, I never saw or heard from Robb again, but if he was marching south, he wanted to kill him too. I don't doubt that Sansa wanted to kill him, and if Arya lived, her hand would have been at her sword.
"But none of them did it. He was poisoned at his wedding to Margaery Tyrell." He pauses. "No better than he deserved."
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"We don't always get to see the justice we feel we deserve." What became of Robert? Of Aerys? Neither man was given a death that would allow a sense of justice. It was the way of things. Vengeance was beautiful to consider, but it only left someone hollow and it was so rarely attained.
Tyrell. How the world changed. They had been loyal to the Targaryens during the Rebellion but it seemed that they went the way of the tide.
That wasn't he only interesting twist. "Your sister carried a sword?"
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"No. Joffrey came from Cersei and her brother. Robert had no trueborn heirs. That's why they killed your brother: he knew."
After a pause, he adds, "Aye, Arya had a sword. I don't know whether or not she carried it, but I hope she has it now; I hope it's protected her.
"When I gave it to her, it was to be kept hidden away. It was the last time I saw her, and a little sword, a bravo's blade."
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"Better that Rhaegar was spared that woman." That was at least a story she knew all too well. Tywin's ambitions pushed beyond simply ruling for Aerys but continued into the next generation. Thank the gods Rhaegar never wed her, otherwise the war might have been far worse. "Jaime Lannister...your father trusted him and treated him well. But in the end, he was as feckless as his father."
Jon was certainly more tolerant of women with wild streaks than most men. "I always wanted a sword of my own, but your grandfather would have hated the idea of it. He never knew I learned to fight from Ned or practiced with Benjen."
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"Would that the rest of us could be." He'd mentioned to her in their first meeting that Cersei was on the Iron Throne, he's sure of it, but that sort of conversation, and then her going to find his father, his father by blood -- it's understandable if she doesn't remember everything he said in passing.
When she says she wanted a sword, the look he gives her in return is serious, thoughtful.
"-- There's an armory here. The swords aren't much to look at -- not up to Winterfell standards, or even Castle Black's. They're certainly not Valyrian steel. But they're usable, and those who can use them need to do it. We may be under attack soon."
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"I had meant to visit the armory and see what they had. The Tyrell girl had some sort of curved sword, but I would rather have something lighter and straight. Better to have something I am familiar with than relearn a balance and weight." But she needed coin first, she imagined.
"If we are moved to the colder regions, I will need a cloak as well. I'm still dressed for Dorne."
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He halts on that weird pronouncement before continuing.
"The swords Sansa and Margaery carry were made by the elf-lords, a style from their lands. I don't know where they got the metal -- maybe from reforging swords that were already here."
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"Elf...lords?" Margaery had said something about a friend helping her, but little else about who they were. "Never mind. I am certain I will find something I can use at the armory. It's not great matter."
And there was at least no stigma attached to a woman wielding a sword.
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He is, indeed, determined to look after her. It's still hard to wrap his mind around the idea that she's his mother, and at moments, he still doubts it. Maybe she had a child, maybe it had died and his father had said nothing, because he'd already had Jon in tow in some way and didn't want a swap to be suspected.
But wouldn't word of such a child have gotten out? He can't imagine that the Silent Sisters are really so silent as that, or that they would have been able to contain word of a dead child so completely. It makes more sense to Jon, much more, that Eddard Stark would have presented his sister's child as his own son to protect the babe than that he would have hidden the death of a nephew, and the former sounds easier to pull off than the latter.
"-- Spent my life wanting to meet you," he mutters, not meeting her eye. "You want to call me by the name you gave me; I want you to be warm."
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For her, she had no doubt this boy was her son, the one she had given to Ned. Even as he considered and thought of these matters, there was a wrinkle in his brow, the same that had been there when Ned first saw her child. That deep, thoughtful look that her child had been born with. He was the spitting image of Rhaegar, perhaps not in coloring, but in stature and bearing.
She smiled through watery eyes, reaching out to touch his cheek again. He reminded her so much of Rhaegar that it made her chest hurt. No matter what he became or the mistakes he became, he was everything she had hoped for.
"I would rather call you my son." She murmured to him. "You have no idea how important you were to me, are to me."
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"I know what mothers are like; I just didn't have one. I had a warm bed and good food to eat and Luwin and Ser Rodrik to give me lessons, but -- " The rest seems so childish. He has very little need of comfort now, not anymore, not from a mother. Yet it's still true that when it had mattered, he had longed for it, thought of the songs she might have sung to him and what it would have been like to be hugged after skinning a knee. And he'd thought that he'd put all that behind him. "But not a mother."
A beat, and he adds, "You can call me your son. You already did."
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"You weren't cold or starving, but it doesn't mean you had everything you needed." There were some things that Ned couldn't give him and, it seemed, Catelyn Tully hadn't offered Jon very much in the way of affection. "You're grown, but it doesn't remove that loneliness." He might not need her as he would have when he was young, but it doesn't mean that she wouldn't still give him that love. It didn't matter his age, he was her child.
"What is it you hoped for in a mother?" Did she match up to his image. "I always will call you my son. Whether you recognize me as your mother or not."
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